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 let's break this verse down. I think i have a good understanding but i want more input. In 2 Tim 1:9 did Jesus save us before time began? What do you think ?


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This is what my study bible says with the footnote on just the last part of this verse which will be indicated by a 3. V.9--Who has saved us and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works but according to His own purpose and grace, which was given to us in Christ Jesus before the (3)times of the ages. Footnote 3: I.e., before the world began. The grace given to us in Christ was bestowed on us before the world began. This is a sure and unshakable foundation that stands firm against the downward current and exposes the utter powerlessness of the enemy's efforts to counter the eternal purpose of God. In order to strengthen Timothy, the apostle identified their ministry with this. [additional note by me: by downward current it is implying the degradation of the church with Gnosticism and also the false apostles and prophets of the Judaizers. So it is the damaging of the church with heresies.] I hoped this made things more clear on this verse. Love and grace be with you.
Jesus was here before all of us. He was promise to us in beginning by God to offer us a chance at a better life and a chance for eternal life. its just like someone buying a gift for you and its yurs its just up to you to accept it. Jesus was promise to us. Romans 10:9 says for those who confess that Jesus died on cross for our sins and arose then they are saved. but thats just first step. afterwards you must be born again of water and baptism in HolyGhost. when you get chance, Read my note "Grace and Mercy Not Alone: You Must Be Born Again". it focuses on your question. hope this helps
THANK YOU FOR YOU COMMENTS I JUST LOVE TO TALK ABOUT HIS GRACE.
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.Romans 8:29 says....For whom he did foreknow he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son that he might be the firstborn among many brethren......KEY...WORD...."CONFORMED"......HE DIED AND ROSE THAT WE MAY BE SAVED THROUGH FAITH IN CHRIST JESUS AND OBEY HIS (COMANDMENTS)...THAT WE MAY HAVE A CHANCE AT EVERLASTING LIFE AMEN
Yessir it is by him an him alone, his grace thats why i seek his face also grace... But my body wants to tell me other wise, an i fail to listen to his call... Lik3 my pastor said a "man falls 7tymez, its hiz choose to get back up an win" I jus fail to kno what more to do. So I read an pray an kno an hope to find my way b4 to late...
That is powerful not by our works that is grace.
Amen u r rite he did b4 Tyme, Jesus gods son save us that's why h3 is Tha savor son. Handz down all hands down... Pray 4 m3 an Tha whole world W3 all but W3 not alone.
Definitely, Jesus taking the body of a man and being slain for us was certainly a predestined event! check these verses But He said to them, "I must preach the kingdom of God to the other cities also, for I was sent for this purpose." (Luke 4:43) "Now My soul has become troubled; and what shall I say, 'Father, save Me from this hour'? But for this purpose I came to this hour. (John 12:27)
 

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