explain Matthew 7:21 this verse keeps me up at night.



Larry Lombardi November 30, 2012 @02:16 pm
Key to Matt. 7:21-23 I NEVER KNEW YOU. Knowing- Biblically- covenant term- extreme intimacy of relationship- "..And Adam 'knew' his wife.
Jackie Peiffer November 30, 2012 @02:15 pm
"...does the Will of my Father in heaven." That is the key, yes?
Tony Damian March 05, 2012 @08:22 pm
the approval i am speaking of is of the entrance into the kingdom of the heavens, which is the coming age, in this age we are all justified by the Spirit of righteousness which is the Spirit of Christ, which is for our salvation and regeneration. now concerning miracles or works of power, even satan can do them as we clearly see in the OT with, as an example Moses and pharaoh's right hand men. but concerning casting out demons, only a true believer has the authority to do so. even some of the people accused Jesus of cast out demons by beelzebul, which in turn He said how can Satan be divided against his own house. and it is confirmed when in the book of acts those scribes wanted to cast out demons in the name of Jesus, without having believed into him, and what did the demon say, " who are you?" and they fled afraid. these are in fact miracles, there is no indication that they were fake miracles when He calls them miracles, but i do agree that there are those who fake miracles such as Benny Hinn and others, But I do agree with you about the lifestyle part, it's right there in the passages before. Brother I certainly do understand your background I went to Catholic Catechism too, pretty much all the same things you been through in religion. i've seen a lot of things and meet a lot of people. my brothers the grace of God be with you.
Tonia Salaiz March 03, 2012 @07:30 pm
So POWERFUL!! But so TRUE!! Help us LORD!
Jacob Shelton March 03, 2012 @02:03 pm
Sam, Bernie...to "know" in the since of the word used when Jesus says this, is to know someone with an intimacy of that of a husband and wife. Empty works done to gain salvation mean nothing. Doing things for others out of love for Christ and love for Yaweh's creation is what Jesus was referring to when He said later as He elaborated on in Matthew 25:36 talking about when I was naked, you clothed me...There is so much emphasis on why we do the works that we do, is it fire insurance? H#!! no, it is because we love our savior we KNOW him and He KNOW's us, as in an intimate know. As King David called the Lord his "Ish" meaning husband, it is clear what our relationship should be. The constant seeking the Lord, day and night, putting Him 1st and "Confessing Him before men," this is the core of what it means to know Him and to be known.
D-road March 03, 2012 @01:55 pm
Pg Sheng Pg March 03, 2012 @01:23 pm
Amen! Praise the Lord!!!!!!!!!!
Bernie Miranda March 03, 2012 @01:21 pm
Thank you Tony and I realize that there are different views of this scripture by god fearing believers and I rest in mine until I see other wise in the balances of all scripture. With your commitment I have to ask myself something? If Jesus NEVER approved of them why did he give the power to do miracles? I believe the miracles were not real and or they were done for the sack of the listener who was deceived by them but God still honored his word because they had the faith, not in the man but in Jesus name. Also, there has been many phonies, made up miracles throughout history that have been proven fake. The importance is that we examine our lives is the point Jesus is making and that we know them by their fruit (life style). Are they living a authentic Christian life and do they have the love of God in their hearts and life. You may not understand the word religion as I do because going up I had one. Went to church, was baptized as a infant, did religious duties like confession, communion but I didn't know Jesus in a personal, intimate way. I didn't have a relationship with him until the Holy Spirit when into mine and I had a spiritual birth, born-again by the Spirit, thanks for sharing. God bless you bro.
Tony Damian March 03, 2012 @01:19 pm
when reading passages like Matthew 7:21-23, it is considering the basis of our work for the Lord, God. also indicated by the passages beforehand: the broad and narrow way, the good tree and bad tree. But when coming to this passage we need to notice a few things first of all. When it mentions 'the kingdom of the heavens' (better translated) it is speaking of the manifestation of the coming millennial age, not the kingdom of God which we enter into when we are born again/regenerated. Notice also that these people are calling Lord, Lord and that they PROPHESY, CAST OUT DEMONS, and DO WORKS OF POWER/ MIRACLES. Bernie if these people were not saved they could never do such things. in order for one to cast out demons we need the authority of Christ to do so, we need Christ in us, as indicated by the gospels and Acts. so we have to rule that out. these people are believers. and just because people are in religion doesn't mean they don't have a relationship with Christ, as i know too well. there are two conditions for entering this kingdom: 1.) to call on the Lord, which suffices for salvation (Rom.10:13) 2.) to do the will of the Father. As believers we should focus on doing the will of the Father, we should not do anything (our works) outside this will, if we do, the Lord considers it lawlessness because it's out of your own intention and desire and not His. One day when we come before the judgement seat of Christ, as indicated by 'that day' (V.22) He will judge us according to our works in this way. He will examine our works. when the Lord says 'i never knew you', this "knew" in the Greek is the same as 'approve or allow' as in Romans 7:15. So the Lord will approve us if our works are according to the Father's will. this should prompt us to then ask: Am I doing my own work or the work which the Father has willed? Father what is your will? We may consider this as a track race, you are a runner in the race but if you step into the competitors lane or run out of bounds, though you may be the fastest runner, you will be disqualified, or unapproved. In order to qualify or be approved you must stay in your lane. hence the narrow and constricted path. i hope this helped. i can say much more but this is enough, to get the point. Grace be with you my brothers. amen.
Bernie Miranda March 03, 2012 @12:39 pm
Heath Love, you are right on dude! I'm putting your comment with my sermon notes! Peace and real love in Christ bro!
Pat Ann Williams March 03, 2012 @10:45 am
TRUE way into the KINGDOM is to do the will of GOD -JESUS said not everyone who says to ME,LORD LORD;shall enter the KINGDOM of HEAVEN only those who do the will of the FATHER ,I agree with EVANGELIST ,obedience is one of the key,faith,trusting in GOD is another ,love ,JOY these are some of the keys we need to believe in the NAME OF JESUS and you can't get to the FATHER but through JESUS amen!
Evangelist-Dr Margaret Sanders-Phd March 03, 2012 @10:43 am
Matthew 7:21: forewarns of false leaders as in apostles, prophets, evangelists, bishops, pastors and so forth. They carry outter image and appear to be doing will of God but they are inwardly doing things according his/her will. False leaders are not concern with winning ouls for kingdom. Their concerns lies in geting into the pockets of th people. they are more for show. Seems God wants you to be more aware. pray for more discernment of spirits. 1John 4:1-4. I did a sermon entitle "Beware of False Robes". when you get a chance read the summary note on it on my page under "notes" section. hope this helps. Mainly you have leaders who are about winning souls and others about money,fame and fortunate
Bernie Miranda March 03, 2012 @10:41 am
This scripture bro is talking about people who never had a relationship with God, just a religion, so they continued to violate the word of God. These are people who I believe never even were saved, possibly they were like Judas who just wanted to follow Christ for what they can get. You have to read the whole account to read that scripture in context V21-23. I don't think a true disciple of Christ (Christian) can loss his salvation (because of predestination taught in the Old and New Testament) , though he can be severely punished or disciplined for his willful, continue disobedience. Read my article "Are You a Grace Monster?" article below might help. Love and peace in Christ bro!
Nadine Chia-Poor March 03, 2012 @10:39 am
Isaiah 56; God's People will Include All Nations 1The Lord says to his people, “Do what is just and right, for soon I will save you. 2I will bless those who al...
Nadine Chia-Poor March 03, 2012 @10:38 am
Using iPad is furstrating as correction are very difficult I hope I was able to make you see the verse from a different perspective.its so easy to deceive ourselves,GOD is saying we can't deceive him,we should be ourselves if we want to meet with him on that day.
Nadine Chia-Poor March 03, 2012 @10:37 am
‎21“Not everyone who calls me ‘Lord, Lord’ will enter the Kingdom of heaven, but only those who do what my Father in heaven wants them to do. 22When Judgement Day comes, many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord! In your name we spoke God's message,...
Dele Kelly Fayemi Snr March 03, 2012 @10:36 am
Salvation is not when u call on God in many ways;Lord,Yeshuah,& so on.Not all that are in Israel are of Israel meaning one can profess to serve God with lip service but still not doing what the Father wills or command.Thats why He seek those that will worship in spirit & in truth!
Ehis Poto Iriah March 03, 2012 @10:33 am
If wrong..... Who God loves He chasetise...... How about this ones, wouldn't He consider His own?.... Despite thier little lapses, cos many in the Bible that did wrong and still love them. e.g Solomon, Moses, Samuel, Petter e.t.c
Ehis Poto Iriah March 03, 2012 @10:31 am
Strictly Totaly Yielding To The Ten Commandment.... If a pin is missed in the line of the command then Hell awaits. As per those who serve's Him.... He said, i know my sheep and my sheep knows me. Christianity is an individual race of religion, while in it there's a personal relationship with God. God deals with the mind and not the outward, so many thinks/do evil, swindle, deceit and fake things codedly in any form believing no one see's them. Revelation 14vs13.... After death reward follows according to the works of thy hand. People this days don't even respect/fear God like thier pastors..... Some hardly could read the Bible them selfs to have personal understanding on how to go. Heaven= Possitivity While Hell= Negativity. Either ways has reward. If By Biblican Standard, Heaven will hardly get candidate, but if we're considered/weighed/compared by our sins and righteous deed then will the Candidate be fare/few still. What will Heaven remember us of?..... It doesn't matter our religion, as long as u do good. May God help us. Be good.
Evangelist Rachell Clark March 03, 2012 @10:30 am
Not everyone who use the Lord's name will enter into heaven but all those who do the will of God will enter into heaven
Cj Whosoever Avery March 03, 2012 @10:27 am
the whole chapter is in reference also to testing the spirits...evidence of the right spirit....is they bear good fruit.....and also confession, that Jesus Christ is Lord....
Cj Whosoever Avery March 03, 2012 @10:26 am
There works will be burned up...non existent....for they are false....what ever reward they have is on earth ...and that's all they will ever have.......when tested in the fire...for purity....it will be as if they did nothing......
Cj Whosoever Avery March 03, 2012 @10:25 am
sometimes if I don't understand something I will also read chapter before the one I have question about or one after....sometimes they blend into each other and are a continuous....flow...
Cj Whosoever Avery March 03, 2012 @10:24 am
it helps sometimes in understanding a specific Scripture to read the whole chapter.....it is in reference to being seen....they already have their reward on earth...in heaven they will have none..(also 1 Corin. 13) we are to do in love....and if a person is only doing it to be seen, it is not done in love....in Scripture above that "you will know them by their fruit".....they have the wrong fruit....unjust gain, doing it to be seen..than this Scripture is in that chapter to.....Matthew 7:15 (AMP) 15 Beware of false prophets, who come to you dressed as sheep, but inside they are devouring wolves. .....they are false....
Heath Love March 03, 2012 @10:22 am
Question: Does Matthew 7:21-23 mean that believers can lose salvation? Answer: The two questions most frequently asked about Matthew 7:21-23 come about because the verses seem to contradict two strongly-held beliefs"one cannot lose his salvation and anyone who performs miracles must be from God. As we will see, one of these beliefs is based on scriptural truth and the other is not. While the true believer cannot lose his salvation, not all miracles are performed by true believers. Jesus is speaking here near the end of His Sermon on the Mount (chapters 5"7). Beginning in verse 13, Jesus discourses at length on the subject of true faith vs. false professions, using the technique of contrast and comparison. Verses 13-14 describe two paths on which people walk through life, the broad road that leads to eternal destruction and the narrow path that leads to eternal life. He introduces here the concept of the "many" and the "few" that He will return to in verses 21-23. In verses 15-18, He again contrasts the two types of people by using imagery well known to those in an agrarian culture'sheep and wolves, grapes/figs and thorn bushes/thistles, good trees and bad trees, good fruit and bad fruit. Having established the idea of dichotomy in the minds of His hearers, He goes on to apply these truths to the spiritual state of all within His hearing. Jesus presents the two types of people who will come to Him on "that day," meaning the last day, the day of judgment, the great day fixed by God and unknown to angels and men which will be terrible to some and joyful to others. All will be seeking to enter the kingdom of heaven, but some will be turned away and will react in utter confusion and disappointment as what they thought was their "ticket" to heaven turns out to be worthless. These are those who prophesied in the name of Jesus, meaning either foretelling things to come or preaching the Word in His name. They have even performed miraculous acts such as driving out demons and perhaps healings and other miracles, but all to no avail. But their works were done for their own glory, not His, and were nothing more than "filthy rags" (Isaiah 64:6). In contrast, those who will enter heaven will not do so based on their miraculous achievements and accomplishments or works of any sort, but solely on the basis of obedience to the will of God. But who are these unfortunate people and how can they do miracles unless they are doing them by God's power? We know several things about them from the text. First, we know there are many of them, because it is many who are on the broad road to eternal death, as compared to the relative few who have found the narrow path to eternal life. Second, they claim the name of Christ. These are not Muslims, Buddhists, or atheists. These are those who would gladly say, "I am a Christian." They work their works in Jesus' name. They pray and heal in Jesus' name. They preach and teach in Jesus' name. They build huge churches and ministries in Jesus' name. They claim a relationship with Him. But they are none of His. In fact, He sends them away, not with commendation for their good works in His name (and many good works are done in Jesus' name by false professors), but by disowning their every deed and word. He "never" knew them, nor did they ever truly know Him. They weren't Christians who lost their salvation. They were never part of the elect of God, chosen before the foundation of the world (Ephesians 1:4), set apart and sanctified by the Spirit (1 Corinthians 6:11; 2 Timothy 2:21), and justified by faith (Ephesians 2:8-9). The ones Christ puts away from Himself with harsh words of condemnation, calling them doers of evil, never came to Him in faith, despite their outward good works and miracles. Then if these do not belong to God and never did, how do we explain their ability to perform miracles? Can those who do not have the Spirit actually cast out demons and perform miraculous healings and spectacular signs and wonders? There are two possible explanations for the ability of the ungodly to perform such acts. One is that some miracles are done by the power of Satan and his demonic host. They are incredibly powerful beings who can manipulate physical elements to their own ends. Consider the power God allowed Satan to use to afflict Job"lightning, wind (possibly a tornado), and boils all over his body (Job 1:16, 19, 2:7). These are certainly miraculous events. Exodus 7 describes the magicians and sorcerers of Egypt whose "secret arts" impressed many, but clearly these were not men of God. In the New Testament, Paul confronted Elymas the Jewish sorcerer and false prophet, calling him a child of the devil, full of all kinds of deceit and trickery (Acts 13:6-11). So we see that not all miracles come from God and not all who perform miracles in the name of Jesus are truly His. He calls them evil-doers because the miracles they perform have evil as their source. In fact, Jesus warned us to be on guard against their deception as the end times draw near (Matthew 24:24). Second, there are times when God, in His sovereign will and for His purposes, will empower unbelievers to perform miraculous deeds. The prime example is Judas who, along with the other disciples, preached the gospel, healed the sick, cast out demons, cleansed lepers, and even raised the dead. There is nothing to indicate that Judas didn't have the same power as the other eleven, although he was never a true disciple of Christ. He was a deceiver and the "son of perdition" (John 17:12). Yet God gave him the power to do miracles for His own glory and to accomplish His will. Jesus goes on to describe those who will be able to call upon His name on the day of judgment. It will be those who hear His words and put them into practice, the same ones referred to in verse 21 as those who obediently do the will of the Father in heaven. True believers are the good trees that produce good fruit (Galatians 5:22-23), the true sheep who look to Christ, depend on Him, commit themselves to Him, trust in Him, and believe on Him for righteousness, salvation, and eternal life. These are the ones who will enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Andrea Benito March 03, 2012 @10:20 am
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. This is v. 27, the key words being "knew you", I know Him, I also know I'm a worker of iniquity, being born out of original sin. Remember David was a murderer & adulterer. & also Rom. 4:3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. Hope that helps.
Derick Cameron Basically March 03, 2012 @10:18 am
Basically I think it's line with the Scripture that talks about how even if you have the gift of prophesy and even the faith to move mountains...if you have no love...you have nothing.
Crystal Anderson March 03, 2012 @10:16 am
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. (Matt. 7:21 KJV) This means to me that no matter whom says Lord Lord doesn't give the way to heaven. We must truly live and abide accordingly to His word. By keeping His Commandment. God Bless.
Wise Tinashe Denhere March 03, 2012 @05:37 am
Not every one that says to me Lord, Lord shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father Who is in heaven. 1. People have change Gods doctrine to man's doctrine. Though they Lord to Christ, they follow man's doctrine not God's wil. 2. Some say Lord to Christ, but they have kept themselves attached to (in fellowship with) the world, not doing the wil of the Father. 3. Some do strive to obey but lack footing, faith. They did not realy believe.
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